Kate and Julia attempt the impossible: to have a nuanced conversation about Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi. Do they succeed? Links and sources from this week's episode: Dark Money, Jane Meyer We've Got People, Ryan Grim https://theintercept.com/2018/11/20/nancy-pelosi-obamacare-democrats/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/posteverything/wp/2019/07/05/feature/haunted-by-the-reagan-era/?utm_term=.741fff040adb https://www.nytimes.com/1987/04/08/us/house-runoff-seems-likely-in-west.html http://www.sfweekly.com/news/activists-give-nancy-pelosi-literal-backbone/ Hosts: Kate Willett and Julia Claire Producer: Genevieve Gearity Theme Song: Emily Frembgen and Kate Willett Artwork: Adrienne Lobl