Pascale Sablan is an extraordinary person! She’s a brilliant architect, an activist, an advocate, and a passionate and engaging conversationalist. Pascale talks about the determination that was required for her to journey into a world where there were very few black female architects. She speaks in practical terms about the need for a diversity of opinions and experiences in community architecture. Pascale and Joe discuss how buildings can be a form of activism and how structures can give back to the community.  This incredible episode ends with a discussion of how important it is to document and celebrate the contributions of women and people of color to the built environment. Links: ⁠https://pascalesablan.com/⁠ ⁠https://www.beyondthebuilt.com/⁠ https://www.linkedin.com/in/pascale-sablan-faia-noma-leed-ap-a0331979/⁠ https://www.instagram.com/pascalesablan⁠ https://www.adjaye.com/who-we-are/leadership/pascale-sablan/⁠ https://www.instagram.com/nomanational⁠