On this episode: Nate and Aaron discuss how to deal with relapse including gentleness and curiosity. Our Guest: Jenna Riemersma is an IFS therapist and author of Altogether You. She explains how Internal Family System therapy practices work to help their clients. Jenna leads us though a very powerful exercise to examine, understand, and grow related to our escaping behavior. Understanding authentic-self-led power versus manager-led power. Links:   Jenna Riemersma's Website Altogether You Book Sponsor: Life Works Counseling   If you have thoughts or questions that you'd like the guys to address in upcoming episodes or suggestions for future guests, please drop a note to piratemonkpodcast@gmail.com.   The music on this podcast is contributed by members of the Samson Society and www.fiftysounds.com. For more information on this ministry, please visit samsonsociety.com.  Support for the women who have been impacted by our choices is available at sarahsociety.com. The Pirate Monk Podcast is provided by Samson Society, a ministry of Samson House, a 501(c)3 nonprofit. To help support the vision, please consider a contribution to Samson House.