On today's episode of Felony Friday Catherine Hoke joins John to discuss her extensive work creating programs that teach inmates about entrepreneurship, business and forgiveness. Catherine is the founder of two groundbreaking incredible effective nonprofits: Prison Entrepreneurship Program (PEP) and Defy Ventures.  PEP and Defy equip people with criminal histories to start legal businesses and careers and have produced recidivism rates of less than 7 percent. Catherine is the author of A Second Chance: For You, For Me, And For The Rest Of Us. During this episode Catherine also shares details as to why she had to resign from Defy Ventures earlier this year and what her plans are moving forward. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices