Penny Moodie lived with OCD for over 20 years before she got a formal diagnosis, and access to treatment. Through her new book 'The Joy Thief', Penny has created the resource she wishes she'd had. Penny chats to Cam and Ali about her 'magical thinking' as a child, what people get wrong about OCD, and how couples therapy helped her marriage. LINKS  Buy 'The Joy Thief' – https://www.booktopia.com.au/the-joy-thief-penny-moodie/book/9781761068669.html. Follow Penny Moodie on Instagram @penny_moodie. Learn more about 'So OCD' – https://soocd.com.au/. Follow Cam on Instagram @camerondaddo.  Follow Ali on Instagram @alidaddo.  Follow Nova Podcasts @novapodcastsofficial.  Got a question for Cam & Ali? You can email them at separatebathrooms@novapodcasts.com.au.  CREDITS  Hosts: Cameron Daddo and Alison Brahe-Daddo. Guest: Penny Moodie.Managing Producer: Elle Beattie. Producer and Editor: Amy Kimball.  Find more great podcasts like this at novapodcasts.com.au.  Nova Entertainment acknowledges the traditional custodians of the land on which we recorded this podcast, the Gadigal People of the Eora Nation. We pay our respect to Elders past and present. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.