1311: The Stalker - Interview with the Doctor (part 16)

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EpisodeJul 18, 202331m

1311: The Stalker - Interview with the Doctor (part 16)

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EpisodeJul 18, 202331m

This is the episode you've been waiting for!While we've primarily heard from Tanya and Rick Fernandez's perspective, it's time to introduce you to a key figure in this fascinating case: Dr. Grace Gressman (not her real name). As a central player, Dr. Gressman holds valuable insights into the stalker's actions. What is her connection to the Fernandez family? What does she have to say about the mysterious messages? In today's episode, we finally hear Dr. Gressman's story. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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