Your location data is one of the most sensitive pieces of information you share, but are you trusting Google and Apple with every place you go? In this episode, Jordan Bravo and Stephen DeLorme explore private alternatives to mainstream navigation apps that don't track your movements. They cover privacy-focused options like Magic Earth and Organic Maps built on Open Street Maps, reveal how to use Waze on GrapheneOS without Google Play Services, and discuss the ultimate privacy solution: standalone Garmin GPS devices. Plus, news about Proton's new AI assistant Lumo and the company's concerning move away from Switzerland due to emerging surveillance laws.

 

Show Notes: https://atlbitlab.com/podcast/private-gps-and-maps

 

00:00 Why Privacy Laws Can't Be Trusted - Jordan's Opening Quote

00:10 Introduction and ATL BitLab Sponsorship

01:32 Welcome and Contact Information

02:27 News: Proton Announces Lumo AI Assistant

03:35 - Proton's Privacy Claims for Lumo

05:31 - Testing Lumo's Capabilities and Models

12:22 - Privacy Trade-offs vs Google/OpenAI

13:28 - Proton vs Big Tech Business Models

15:10 - Proton Moving Infrastructure Out of Switzerland

16:21 - Swiss Privacy Laws Under Threat

17:18 - Jordan's Take on Privacy Law Volatility

17:35 - European "Euro Stack" Initiative

20:27 Main Topic: Private GPS and Navigation

21:12 Introduction to Open Street Maps

22:00 Magic Earth: Premium Privacy Navigation App

23:50 - $0.99/year pricing model

24:48 - Jordan's experience with Magic Earth

26:20 - Search limitations vs Google Maps

29:22 Organic Maps: Free but Limited UX

30:40 Waze on GrapheneOS: Surprising Discovery

33:14 Garmin Standalone GPS: Ultimate Privacy

34:30 - Benefits of dedicated navigation device

37:24 - Garmin dash cam capabilities

38:22 - Garmin watches for privacy-conscious users

39:39 BTC Map: Bitcoin Business Directory

43:00 Mapbox for Developers

45:28 Boost Segment: Anonymous and Keith Sharp

47:17 Conclusion and Contact Information