Host and podcast impresario Jesse Thorn is back to talk about his many shows (Bullseye, Judge John Hodgeman, Jordan, Jesse, GO!), the process of converting his Max Fun Network to a worker-owned cooperative, losing his father during the pandemic, feeling pulled in a number of different directions, neckties, owning a shop some day, parenthood, gender non-conformity, dogs and dog loss, Aisha Tyler, Julie Klausner, ice cream, the heat and more! Get yourself some new ARIYNBF merch here: https://alison-rosen-shop.fourthwall.com/ Products I Use/Recommend/Love: http://amazon.com/shop/alisonrosen Check us out on Patreon: http://patreon.com/alisonrosen This episode is brought to you by: POISE: http://poise.com EVERYPLATE: http://everyplate.com/podcast (use code 49alison) Buy Alison's Book: Tropical Attire Encouraged (and Other Phrases That Scare Me) https://amzn.to/2JuOqcd You probably need to buy the HGFY ringtone! https://www.alisonrosen.com/store/ Try Amazon Prime Free 30 Day Trial