Guest host: Tim Desmond of the podcast RevolutionFI.Have you ever felt like you're shouting into the wind? Every podcaster knows the excitement around starting a new podcast. And every podcaster also knows the depressive feeling that comes from looking at barren stats of a just-launched podcast. So how do you stay motivated? How do you keep up the effort when you don’t have thousands of fans out of the gate?Even if you’ve been podcasting for years, every new show starts you off again at zero listeners, especially if you’re podcasting in a different industry and niche than your previous work. You've probably read that new podcasts don't make it past seven episodes. You know it's a slow build to have your show find its audience. But still, it’s hard to keep motivated. Tim’s advice? Think of your dismally small audience - maybe 50 downloads of that first episode - as if they were real people. If 50 people showed up in a library or a coffee shop to hear you speak, that’d be enough to give many people stage fright!Even better: If you do your job with your new podcast, those 50 people will come back to hear you talk every day or every week. And if they really love your content, they’re going to bring more people with them next time.So instead of focusing on that stark, tiny number in your podcast hosting company’s dashboard, think about the real people who are downloading and listening to your episodes.And if you want to eliminate debt and earn money for retirement, check out Tim’s podcast at RevolutionFI.com.-----Share with a friend: https://player.captivate.fm/episode/442e593a-7f15-4ae5-aba3-c76dcf0787a3Follow Evo on Twitter for more podcasting insights as they come.Buy him a virtual coffee to show your support.And if you need a professional in your podcasting corner, please visit Simpler.Media to see how Simpler Media Productions can help you reach your business objectives with podcasting.Podcast Pontifications is published by Evo Terra and will return to its normal four times a week schedule in January of 2021, with loads of special content before that!Mentioned in this episode:Support For Abortion RightsWhile Americans overwhelmingly support the right of an individual to make their own decisions about abortion, unfortunately, that right is no longer protected everywhere in the U.S. The Supreme Court overturned Roe v Wade on June 24th. Abortion is a basic healthcare need for the millions of people who can become pregnant. Everyone should have the freedom to decide what’s best for themselves and their families, including when it comes to ending a pregnancy. This decision has dire consequences for individual health and safety, and could have harsh repercussions for other landmark decisions. Restricting access to comprehensive reproductive care, including abortion, threatens the health and independence of all Americans. Even if you live in a state where abortion rights are upheld, access to safe medical procedures shouldn’t be determined by location, and it shouldn't be the privilege of a small few. You can help by donating to local abortion funds. To find out where to donate for each state, visit donations4abortion.com....