We don’t make relationships through ‘funnels’, but rather bonds are formed through considerate discussion - the power of a conversation is near-enough unparalleled.Interview Valet began based on the tenet that we’re just one conversation away from creating limitless opportunities, and its Founder & CEO is the greatest advocate for better marketing through conversation - Tom Schwab.Join us for a dive into the kiss of death in modern marketing, the art of the awkward conversation, and why the future is in rich audio.Lee and Tom discuss:Why digital marketing might actually be hurting businessesThe value of connections, and breaking out of obscurityTools as amplifiers of brilliance and stupidity alikeThe two-way nature of magnetic marketingWhat makes podcasting such a lucrative marketing toolExtrology is sponsored by Progresso Talent Partners who for more than 25 years have successfully delivered interim and permanent leadership talent to transform businesses and to hire the talent you need to enable your business to thrive: https://www.progressotalent.com/Send us a textGet in touch: lee@extrology.comExtrology: https://www.extrology.com/ https://www.instagram.com/extrologypodcast/ https://www.tiktok.com/@extrology https://substack.com/@extrology https://www.youtube.com/@extrology Lee Cooper: https://www.linkedin.com/in/leecooperrecruiter/