Haaaaappy Thursday, friends!

Please welcome THE FIRST EVER MAN to Shameless In Conversations! How wild. What a niche. For those unfamiliar, Brandon Jack was born with sporting prowess in his blood; Brandon grew up with a father, Garry, who was a star player and coach in the rugby league. His brother Kieren was an AFL premiership player, and for a time was captain of the Sydney Swans. Brandon gave professional sport a crack himself - he played alongside Kieren at Sydney from 2013 to 2017 - before deciding his passion was writing. And feminist writing, at that.

Now, Brandon is a columnist for the Sydney Morning Herald, where he writes about locker-room culture, feminism, and violence against women, among other things like current affairs and sport. We hope you enjoy this chat as much as we loved having it.

Follow Brandon on Instagram @brandonjackk. Find some of his writing here.

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