In between episodes 1 and 2 of Dig Where You Stand, here is our conversation with Cece Mlay and Agnes Lisa Wegner, directors of the new documentary The Empty Grave. The film follows two families in Tanzania as they demand the return of their ancestors’ remains from Germany. Follow them @the_empty_grave_film. A transcript of our conversation is available to our subscribers here.

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DWYS is created by Ben Schuman-Stoler and Peter Matthews. It’s produced by Kollo Media in partnership with The Berliner magazine. This episode was produced by Ben Schuman-Stoler, Peter Matthews, and Rowan Ben Jackson. 

Mix and sound by Rowan Ben Jackson. Check out his website here: https://fearofmissingaudio.com/

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Thanks again to Cece Mlay and Agnes Lisa Wegner for the conversation.

Thanks to Laurens von Oswald for the music and Natalia Piana for the design.

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