In this episode, Stacy is joined by Sarah Dunsmore, who co-owns CDE Animal Cages with her husband. Lifelong animal lovers, Sarah and her husband purchased the thirty-year old company several years ago and decided to shift its focus to helping shelter and rescue groups. As a small, family-owned company, CDE wants to help connect shelters and rescues with caging that helps keep their animals healthier, and helps make their staff's jobs easier. Sarah and Stacy discuss how changes in cat caging—including the "portalization" of cat cages—have run parallel to the shift from high euthanasia rates saving as many cat lives as possible. CDE cat cages have portals that can connect cages horizontally or vertically, as well as individual panels that can be easily removed, allowing shelters to customize their caging arrangement. In fact, one of Sarah's favorite things is working with individual groups to truly customize their cages so they can get exactly what will work best for their space and their needs. Another unique offering at CDE is catios. CDE got involved with the Oregon Feral Cat Coalition's "Cats Safe at Home" campaign* a couple years ago, and since then, have really become enthusiastic about catios. Sarah and Stacy talk about how catios benefit cats mentally and physically, and also benefit birds and wildlife by keeping them safe from cats. CDE can cater to whatever individuals or groups have in mind for their catios. To learn more, visit the CDE Animal Cageswebsite. From there, you can also feel free to call or email. Sarah is always happy to start a conversation about how CDE can help you and your group. *Stacy interviewed Karen Kraus of the Oregon Feral Cat Coalition, along with Bob Sallinger of the Aubudon Society of Portland, in CCP Episode 262. Check it out to learn more about the Cats Safe at Home campaign.