Nadia Bolz Weber is known for calling a spade a spade in three bestselling memoirs and on her podcast, The Confessional. She is stand up comic turned Lutheran minister who refuses to oversimplify, engage in cheap positivity or humlebrag. Nadia and Kelly wonder together about the things we do in the name of consistency and how to make the call about what to let go of and what to never give up on.

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