We open with a pat shurmur analysis and why Giants fans might want to root for shurmur to lose to Arizona . (1:00-20:00)  How good are the Carolina Panthers? (21:00-26:00) Falcons and Cowboy concerns . (27:00-32:00) We analyze Tomlin and the Steelers, how shanahan and the niners are rising, Kyler murray growth, riverboat ron . (35:00-66:10) Marcus Mariota and his future . (68:15-75:00)