Dave sits down with Adam Goyette, founder of Growth Union and a former marketing leader at G2 and Help Scout. Adam shares his insights from leading growth at top B2B companies to launching his own agency that helps startups scale by integrating holistic growth strategies.Adam and Dave cover:How marketing can drive demos that aren’t qualified and how to fix itWhy MQLs aren’t efficient incentives for marketing teamsHow to use feedback from Sales to create better marketing contentTimestamps(00:00) - - Why Working With B2B Agencies is So Hard (06:32) - - Marketing in 2024 (10:28) - - How to Actually Test Your Marketing Campaigns (12:33) - - Organizing Your Marketing Team (15:28) - - Setting Aside Budget For Experiments (23:18) - - How to Ask Qualifying Questions (24:39) - - Balancing Brand Building and Conversion (29:05) - - Advocating for Marketing Strategy Internally (33:59) - - Using Feedback from Sales to Create Content (39:40) - - How to Test and Iterate Quickly (47:50) - - Adwords Keyword Optimization and Ad Copy (48:59) - - Marketing Leadership in SaaS at a Scale Up Join 50,0000 people who get our Exit Five Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterLearn more about Exit Five's private marketing community: https://www.exitfive.com/***Today's episode is brought to you by Knak.Email (in my humble opinion) is the still the greatest marketing channel of all-time.It’s the only way you can truly “own” your audience.But when it comes to building the emails - if you’ve ever tried building an email in an enterprise marketing automation platform, you know how painful it can be. Templates are too rigid, editing code can break things and the whole process just takes forever. That’s why we love Knak here at Exit Five. Knak a no-code email platform that makes it easy to create on-brand, high-performing emails - without the bottlenecks.Frustrated by clunky email builders? You need Knak.Tired of ‘hoping’ the email you sent looks good across all devices? Just test in Knak first.Big team making it hard to collaborate and get approvals? Definitely Knak.And the best part? Everything takes a fraction of the time.See Knak in action at knak.com/exit-five. Or just let them know you heard about Knak on Exit Five.***Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.Visit hatch.fm to learn more